But Remember, as the saying goes "The road to hell is paved with good intentions.". To help the locals. Yeah, I've seen Vatti's video. It wasn't the Old One that caused that place to be wretched, it was wretched before that. Basically she is waiting for you to kill her. TheLordFussington 5,392 views. It's not so much you have to kill her because she screwed up but you have to kill her for the better good. Maybe she started out attempting to absorb the corruption and it affected her in such a way that she turned into a soul-grubbing demon. The Dark Souls counterpart (which is amazing in its own right) is much less ambiguous about the role Queelag's Sister played. Vaati is someone who's poured over almost every inch of the lore, so is someone whose opinion I tend to believe when it comes to this. Is all the chaos you see happening despite her best efforts? Or I could simply show you this. As God/Umbasa has forgotten about them. Or is she playing the part of a Saint in order to lure the locals to feed her souls? The theme of Saint/ Maiden Astraea in Demon's Souls for the PS3 I like this theme, and I love the boss fight. GundamSentinel:I don't entirely agree with Vatti's interpretation, as in that Astraea was actually doing some good in the Valley of Defilement. Vatti Vidyia's view.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. Posted by 4 years ago. imho of course. 10:41.
I'm not contesting that she tried to make the place better, but personally I think she was deluded by a God that wasn't at all what she thought it was. She just couldn't grasp that there was no way for her to cure the Valley of Defilement while the Old One was still around and slowly became a demon. I don't agree with this at all. It's definitely one of the best chunks of it in the entire series, as far as I'm concerned. Served from: 172.31.19.116 | Version: com. Sign-in to your Escapist account to enter contest, post comments, and simply be more awesome. The beautiful thing is that the stage is set in such a manner that both aren't mutually exclusive. The way I see it, Astraea hadn't done much to improve the situation, however much she tried. Which is fair. 23.

When players find her, she is perched on a rock, blood, swamp water and plague staining her skirt and helpless. The filthy woman even claims the Valley got worse once Astraea arrived, though that could be atributed to jealousy. She became part of the Valley, tied there and powerless to do anything about it. She became part of the Valley, tied there and powerless to do anything about it. Well, my view of the Valley of Defilement as such is probably just different from yours. Maybe that never happened at all and she is indeed trying her best to help the Valley until the very end. Boleteria was what caused the place to be as awful as it was and the colourless fog didn't do much to make it worse. She screwed up and you put an end to her folly. Mushinronja 999,595 views I just stepped through the fog, saw that the swamp valley weirdoes were venerating Astraea, who I guess was supposed to be a sort of Kurtz figure to them who had become corrupted by staring too long in the abyss, then proceeded to cheese her with a bow from a blind spot Garl couldn't get into. I don't entirely agree with Vatti's interpretation, as in that Astraea was actually doing some good in the Valley of Defilement. I can't really expand about this subject, but an interesting question that always bothered me about the Souls series, what constitutes as a single soul? The leechmonger and Dirty colossus are sources of the plague and poison, are the depraved also feel long past human. After all the local Great Demons seem to be making the matters worse. In short, yes I think she is trying to help. That would mean that when Astraea entered the Valley of Defilement and wanted to draw upon God's power to cleanse the land, she was actually drawing upon the same power that was corrupting the land and she only made matters worse, even though she had good intentions.

She went there with the 3 knights. Did you guys found any evidence in either direction? Thread Index Search Forums Posting Guidelines Contact Moderators. Maiden Astraea Lore. And she is bad. Her bodyguard, Garl Vinland, is her only form of offense and defense. The spell created from her soul has in its descriptions that "It is natural that those that take in all that is impure are themselves the most impure of all" so she was trying to purify the valley and do good.

It supposes that Umbasa (God) and the Old One are one and the same being, with the Old One being both responsible for the Valley of Defilement's existence and the only source of magical power (including Miracles). I prefer to think that she is trying to help, just that it's not doing any good, that it is in fact making things worse.

TPR Embers and Ashes: Melancholy Music from the Souls Series ℗ 2018 TPR Lyricist: Shunsuke Kida Auto-generated by … I don't have any. King Allant was the one that woke the Old One and caused the colourless fog to cross the land. Both and interesting topic and one that I personally enjoy: Souls games lore talk! You need her soul. Lulling the Old One back to sleep takes precedence over what she was doing in the valley. We know a person's souls is dependant on his life, what wretched being is a single soul value? So what's the deal with the Valley of Defilement? Ha, Astraea. One of the most iconic boss battles in the history of the medium. She just couldn't grasp that there was no way for her to cure the Valley of Defilement while the Old One was still around and slowly became a demon. After all, Astrea wasn't a monster, she didn't have to be stopped like the others that were corrupted into demons. The old one the ultimately summons you as the most powerful soul remaining in Boletaria. I dunno, maybe I just prefer dead babies to resurrected plague-ridden demon baby corpses from hell. Archived. Maiden Astraea is a boss in Demon's Souls. Maiden Astraea.

Am I the only one who feels bad every time I defeat maiden Astraea? GundamSentinel:Astraea then had a crisis of faith, supposed she had to fight fire with fire and turned towards the demonic powers. Having just finished Demon's Souls, I'm still thinking about that bit of the lore.

This theory makes the player's actions more understandable, as you would be really putting her out of her deluded misery. So the souls she acquires she acquires for the old one. What she has to realize is that actually Umbasa and the old one are one and the same thing. I could go on and on about how I think she is trying to help the valley.

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In my mind its inhabitants were wretched, but not crazy and violent. share. The rest is history. If she had, what was it like before she got there, I wonder. Having just finished Demon's Souls, I'm still thinking about that bit of the lore. 50+ videos Play all Mix - Maiden Astraea - Demon's Souls [Synthesia] YouTube Demon's Souls OST - Maiden Astraea - Extended - Duration: 11:13. Maiden Astraea. Personally I saw the Valley from before the colourless fog as a nasty filthy place, yes, but not as a the demon-infested hell hole it became.